[SCFN] ITS ALL ABOUT THE BACKBONE - THE INTERNET BACKBONE

Tue Apr 28 12:00:55 PDT 2009

We're still sitting on the fence with a project where we're looking
for similar bandwidth solutions.  We're in an area where the only easy
solution is DSL.  There's no cable, and no fixed wireless.  So if we
want more than a 6 Mb/s DSL line, we have to either go with a
fractional DS3, or bonded T1's....and they're both quite spendy.

This question is actually directed at Shapery, but anyone else is
welcome to comment of course.

The best quote we got for bandwidth was from Time Warner.  All speeds
are symmetrical.  For a 36mo term, we could get:

5 Mb/s  $850/mo
10Mb/s $1,250/mo
20Mb/s $1,850/mo
45Mb/s $2,895/mo

These CIR are based on a 100 Mb/s ethernet pipe.

Do these prices seem in line with what you would expect to pay?  The
location is on Miramar Road across the street from the Marine base.

-M@

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Steve Shapery <steve at shapery.com> wrote:
> The Tubes are full!!!
>
> Fundamentally, there is no "Core Backbone" for the internet.  It is a
> conglomeration of multiple private carriers, who 'peer' at public and
> private points using the BGP protocol. (See: NAP, MAE-WEST, etc)
>
> if you want to connect to 'the core Internet' you'll need to get a circuit
> from a "Tier-1" carrier - i.e. ATT, Level (3), etc.. and then you will be
> as close as you can get to 'the core'.
>
> as for high-speed connections - these days, you can get good pricing from
> multiple Tier-1 or Tier-2 carriers for 100Mbps circuits into a colocation
> facility, or anywhere that's on their networks (see: ON-NET). depending on
> how many sites you want to branch out to for coverage, it can get quite
> pricy quite quickly.
>
> But as an example, you can get many carriers to extend their fiber
> footprint into your facility based on spend and term commitment - I have
> Cox trenching and doing a 3000' fiber build into one of my buildings based
> on a $10,500/mo spend commit on a 36 month term.  That's for a dedicated
> 100Mbps circuit to Mexico. For Internet, you can get alot of services
> quite a bit cheaper - currently, I can get 1000Mbps wire to the internet
> with a 100mbps CIR for $3000/mo.
>
> So look around - if you want to play in the Enterprise market, let me know
> and I can introduce you to some of my salespeople.
>
>
> --Steve
>
>
>
>
> Brian Whalen wrote:
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>>   <div dir="ltr">could someone please explain to me how to connect
>> directly to the internet backbone?<br>
>> or to buy bandwidth at a wholesale price?<br>
>> my goal would be to plan a WISP [wireless internet service provider]<br>
>> with enough bandwidth both up and down that <br>
>> one thousand customers could each have broadband service more or less<br>
>> equal to a cheap DSL connection of 0.5 MBPS. lets assume only
>> one-fourth of the <br>
>> customers are online during internet rush hour. so 250 x 0.5 MBPS = 125
>> MBPS<br>
>> which is why i would like to directly connect to the internet backbone
>> at a wholesale price <br>
>> much less than if i had to buy [retail priced] bandwidth 6MBPS at a
>> time. <br>
>> how is that done?<br>
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>> Either connect to multiple providers and get an AS number and speak BGP
>> to several providers, or connect to a single provider that does this
>> already, some emphasize carrier neutrality, Internap was the defacto
>> standard in the past for this, I don't know about now.<br>
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